PFR-Knee pain-Who has had this?

[Mr.F]

Hello everybody,

Well I got home about an hour ago.  (Went to the emergency room at 9am).  X rays were taken, I saw a nurse and a PA.  Unfortunately I could not see my x rays.  They are digital x rays.  They did give me a knee brace (which I ripped off after about 10 minutes) and a prescription for pain meds. I was given the name an OS.

Prior to leaving I called the new OS.  I have an appointment in about a little more than a week.  So I will go from there.

This morning I was on line and came across patellar clung syndrome.  Does anyone know anything about this, or had this?  Does scar tissue show up on an X-ray?

Well me and my extreme pain are going to take a nap now.  I am having difficulty staying focused.

Take care,
Mr. F

[TwoBadKneesUSA]

Too bad the brace was not helpful. I don't ususally find them comfortable myself and have different ones depending on what the knee is doing.  At least the OS appointment is not too far out. 

I don't think scar tisssue will show on an x-ray, it might.  It may show better on an MRI, but not always there either.  Sometimes the only way to find it is to scope it out literally.

Good luck and hope the meds give some relief.

Milly

[Mr.F]

Hello everybody,

So there is some new drama.  Why can't anything with my knees be easy...

Yesterday I get home from the emergency room.  I am taking it easy and trying not to aggravate my knee any more.  I am sitting on the sofa with a heating pad.  Still excited that I have a new OS and an appointment in about a week.  As the night goes on I am feeling pain and realize I need to eat prior to taking the new meds.  I eat and take the new meds.  10 minutes pass and nothing.  20 minutes pass and nothing.  30 minutes pass and nothing.  I am wondering when the meds will kick in.  45 minutes and nothing.  About an hour after taking the meds the room starts to spin.  (Huston we have lift off).  I can not get up.  I am afraid I will fall.  So I attempt to play a game on my iPad (well I attempted to play).  After an hour I am feeling like I can make it to the bedroom.

I feel asleep sort of quickly.  That is the good news.  (Normally I wake up between 5:00 and 5:15 am).  This morning I wake up to my alarm.  (It was going off for 3-5 minutes).  Not good.  All day long it felt as if I did not sleep.  I joked around at work and said I could fall asleep on the floor when I arrived at 6:50am.  I do not like taking pain meds, it makes you feel not like your self.

The monkey wrench in the story.  When I was in the emergency room the hospital recommended at doctor for me.  (Somebody outside the practice I was going to).  So I am at work today and a friend of mine comes over and asks where I was yesterday.  I tell her about my knee ordeal and she can understand my frustration.  I mentioned that I was given the name of a new OS and I am excited to have a doctor that will listen to me.  She laughs...a nervous laugh.  What?  The new doctor you have, she says, guess who he was trained by?  NOOOOOOOO...Yes, he was trained by the doctor you saw about 2-3 weeks ago.  Are you f#@%^*g kidding me?  Nope.  He was the one who got the new building built at the hospital.  He trained and trains all the doctors at this hospital.  He also works with a local research university (this was my backup plan).  He is the lead OS, teaches, and trains the OSs in the area I live in, oh and his practice is involved with almost all practices in my area. 

So I have to travel to get a new OS.  So I am back to square one.  Let the FUN begin.

I hope your day was better than mine...Take care,
Mr.F

[Mr.F]

Hello everybody,

Some good news...I was talking to a fellow employee, this morning.  He asked about my knees.  I told him about my ordeal.  He told me that his mother was in a similar situation.  Knee problem, nobody would operate on her, and she was younger (younger than 60).  They found an OS who looked at her and her knee issue.  They discussed her options.  In the end they chose surgery.  I will be calling him tomorrow.

At work I did have some issues.  Around nine am my knee popped and the pain was severe.  (the pain is so intense that I forgot what three items I was working on).  I had to start all over and work back to the point I was at.  (I am comparing this to a computer issue that causes the computer to reboot and you have to start for the beginning).

By the end of the day everyone was saying why are you still here...you should be at home.  I am saving my sick time in case I need surgery.  I am glad I have tomorrow off to put up my feet and relax.

Right now my left knee is in, well there are no words to describe the pain I am in.  It feels like there is pressure coming from under my patella.  It also feels like the patella is going to pop up, explode off, the track and I will not be able to bend my knee.

With this intense pain I am having trouble concentrating.  So I am going to leave you here with a have a great day,

Mr. F

[Mr.F]

Hello everybody,

Well today has been a very trying day.  Extreme pain....left knee is making strange sounds.  I am feeling more catching and popping.  On top of this the temperature around my knee is dropping.  (Skin is feeling cloder and colder).  I have asked many doctors and PAs and nobody knows why this happens.  I am having difficulty standing, sitting, walking, etc.  (I am glad I did laundry yestday).

My son and I went to a local park yesterday.  We did get to launch our bottle rocket.  Everything was going fine.  Until we had an incredible launch.  The water bottle not only had great height, it caught a breeze and had great distance.  (Yes us geeks found the perfect combination of limited water and more air pressure).  The plastic bottle hit the pavement at cracked.  Huston we have a problem.  We lost not only air pressure, we lost almost all our water.  He found some kids and played with them for awhile.

So here I sit on the sofa, with a lack of concentration.  I have several papers I need to write and check out tech research my boss sent me.  I know he wants to know how we can use this at work.  And me with no concentration.

And yes I still love my iPad.  Using it most of the time.  I have almost given up my PC at home and work, and my laptop at home.  My back and knee is very thankful (less weight, pain, and stress).

Have a fantastic day and enjoy time with friends and family...
Mr. F

[TwoBadKneesUSA]

Too bad the rocket is having technical difficulties.  Sounds like you have the formula pretty much figured out though.  Hope the OS reference you get pans out.  Intractiable pain is tough to live with and it does make it very difficult to concentrate.

Hope it's better this weekend.

Milly

[Mr.F]

Hello everybody,

Well the past few days have felt like _______...I can not fill in the word so you need to.  I have had extreme pain in the knee.  Today I was in a training all day.  Between the rooms being super cold and it has been overcast, great combination for a bad knee, I was having difficulty moving.  So I am sitting on my sofa trying to work and not being so successful.  I am having difficulty concentrating.  I would love to take tomorrow off but I have a 3 day training next week and I need to get certain projects completed prior to this. 

I have a new noise and pain in the knee.  Now when I bend my leg back and forth you can hear the crunching, and feel something in the knee mal-tracking.  Wow the fun in my knee.  I call it the rice crispy knee (snap-crackle-pop).  And I have no problems.  All I have to do is deal with it.

I need to figure out something for the pain.  I will get back to you later.  I hope your day was better than mine...

Mr. F

PS-I got to see 3 people I worked with last year.  It was great to see them.  One person and myself got our geek on with our iPads and his MacBook.  FileMaker Pro, databases, apps, pictures, videos, etc.  Yes this was fun.  In another office I was told I look much younger than my age, and in the other I was told that the videos we created last year are still being used.  At least some good came of today.  Not to mention a very interesting, inspiring, and motivating training.

[Mr.F]

Hello everybody,

So last night was movie night at my son's school.  We took a friend and my son to see the latest Muppet Movie.  When you have hundreds of kids watching a movie you will not have total quite and all eyes watching the movie.  Hearing people complain was amazing to me.  Do you know how children act and how they behave?

My knee was killing me from a Thursday's training.  I managed to make it through work and the movie.  I passed out from pain.

Today I have been managing the pain.  We all went to my son's school to launch the water bottle rocket.  Me have been thinking about design changes and creating a new launcher.  Which we will be working on this coming week.  After this we attempted to play 4 square and shoot some hoops.  I had to stop because of knee pain.

This was a break from the papers I am writing.  I love writing that is just a sample of how you write.  (The questions are normally something you say "Are you kidding" or "WTF").  The questions I had to answer were not that bad.  Next month I will be meeting with the administrative team and I have to answer a laundry list of questions (last count about 20).  I do not know how they are going to handle listening to several departments full of people answering the same 20 questions.

So now I am sitting on the sofa, watching a movie with my son.  I am going to make dinner soon, so take care and have an exciting weekend.

Take care,
Mr.F

[Mr.F]

Hello everybody,

Well I am attending a three day computer training.  The person leading the training was all over.  (We were given aa 70 page document and he was all over the place...page 22, page 58, page 15, and then page 42).  After 3 hours of trying to follow along I noticed people zoning out.  Tomorrow is day 2 and I am hoping we will play more.

So my knee was feeling good today.  I woke up in pain, but less pain.  I went to work and feeling ok.  Less pain during the training.  Walked to lunch with a group of people.  After lunch we walked downtown for 20 minutes.  Still feeling good.  Then we get backup to the training.  An hour in I can start to feel the pressure building up under my knee cap.  I am hoping that would not last.  After, I have no idea, some time I have to bend my knee (the pressure is now hurting).  So I bend my leg and pop, pop, pop.  And I bend it back..pop and pop. 

The rest of the training I feel the pressure under my knee cap. The training ends and I walk to the parking lot with a friend of mine.  Less pressure under the cap, but still pain.  As I get into my car I feel the pressure building.  Driving home was painful.  I was having trouble finding a comfortable way to sit.  I get home and limp into my house.

My wife and son want to go out and eat.  I hobble to the car, and feel every bumb we drive over.  I make it through dinner and home.  So here I sit on the sofa with my leg on a foot stoll.  I am hoping that my pain goes away soon or tonight will be fun.  Either I will pass out in pain or not sleep at all.  Only time will tell.

Take care,
Mr. F

[Mr.F]

Hello everybody,

Here I am in bed.  No I am not stuck here. Well I sort of am.  My son is watching some terrible television show so I am sitting in bed.  I was watching a movie on the iPad.  I know I have said this before and it still holds true I love my iPad.

Today was eventful, and somewhat painful.  We started out this morning with an early breakfast.  (Oh, I forgot to mention that I passed out on the sofa early last night do to pain.  I could not get comfortable when I woke up so I took a pain pill.  It did absolutely nothing).  After breakfast we went to 2 paint stores and Home Depot.  My wife is looking at paint and patio furinature.  While she is doing this my son and I are in the plumbing department looking for supplies for our next creation.

We are rebuilding our bottle rocket launcher.  We came up with some modifications.  No longer is the launder in two parts.  We were loosing air and water pressure. We found what we were looking for and ever cut the PVC pipe.  When we got home we parted the old launcher and trashed the leftovers. 

We needed a valve stem, so we went to a local gas station that does repairs and tire work.  I explained what we were working on and that we need a valve stem.  He was happy to assist us, but looked confused.  I asked what was the problem.  His response was "I can help you with the valve stem, but I have no idea on how to build the launcher".  I told him we had that covered.

In about an hour we had our new bottle rocket launcher.  We packed up our supplies and headed to his school.  We went out the the field and launched our soda bottle 10 times.  It work great.  Water was flying out of the bottle as it launched.  We got drenched.  After we played some basketball.  Well we stood on different numbers and shot some hoops.

From there we stopped for some fast food.  Yes fine dinning was on our list.  And then we watched, is becoming our standard Saturday movie, while eating.  After cleaning up we made it to the library  where my son checked out nine books and two movies.  That should hold him for about two weeks.

So that was my exciting day.  I hope I am able to walk tomorrow.  Since I have about six loads of laundry waiting for me. 

Have a fantastic Sunday and go out and have fun..Take care,

Mr. F

[Mr.F]

Hello everybody,

Just a quick update.  I did five loads of laundry today.  And what I feared has occurred.  My left knee is killing me.  So here I sit on the sofa watching Blue Planet with my son.  We have been playing Gardens In Time on the iPad.  Nothing else exciting and new here.  Just lousy weather outside.

Take care,

Mr. F

[Mr.F]

Hello everybody,

Work has been keeping me busy.  I have taken on, through my own wanting, three major tasks at work.  I am creating databases, working with 50-60 people, creating and putting into place new systems, and creating a mentoring program.  So you can say I have literally been running all over the place.  Yes I should have said hobbling all over the place.

I finally have a moment to breath so I called a new doctor.  I was given his name from someone I work with (his mother was operated on when nobody else would touch her knee...in her 50s and doctors said you will have to live with it).  I am excited and nervous at the same time.  I will be leaving work a little early tomorrow.

As for my knee I am ion extreme pain.  On Friday I was having problems and took a pain pill, which did absolutely nothing.  Saturday I went to the park and shot some baskets with my son.  And Sunday I paid for it.  Monday, Tuesday, and today I have been feeling the pain in my knee.  Epically when I go from a seated position to standing.  I have can feel the catching and cracking along with the popping.

Nothing else is new and exciting here.  Take care and keep smiling...

Mr. F

[TwoBadKneesUSA]

Good luck with the new doc. Maybe this will be the one to help.

[Mr.F]

Hello everybody,

So I went to my new doctor today.  My appointment was for 3 pm.  I get to the office early and fill out the paperwork.  Before seeing the doctor I was given a patience's bill of rights, well this was a first.  I was taken to a waiting room and I did just that.  The one thing I should mention my new OS did give every person his/her time, answered questions, and made everyone feel comfortable.
When he came in he had me move, walk, bend, walk on my toes, walk on my heels, and bend some more.  Then I got on the examining table.  He checked both knees.  He spent time examining me.  Finally he gets to the bending of my left knee.  He has on hand over my knee cap and the other moving me leg.  He bends my knee about 85 degrees, feels the crack and movement inside the knee, looks at me puzzled, and bends the leg again.  He keeps bending to see when the cracks, pops, and movement will occur.  He seems concerned.
I was then sent to x ray.  They took several different views.  The last view had me laying on my stomach,  knees on the cold table, and legs bent upward.  Then the nurse told me to go back to the waiting room.  I roll over and pop, the pain was incredible.  I make it back and wait some more.
The doctor comes in and gives me the news.  No way.  It can not be.  We talk somemore.  I ask to see my x rays.  He takes me into the room where they are displayed.  I see all 4 of my x rays.  Again, no f&@&9&:$ing way is what I am thinking.  I am back at the beginning.
There it is the smooth groove and the patella is centered.  Nothing in my x rays.  Nothing looks wrong.  What the hell?  What is causing this pain and discomfort?  We talk somemore.  He has no idea what is causing this.  He feels bad for me and is feeling my pain.  He said he is sorry that there is nothing he can do for me.
So this is how my day went.

Take care,
Mr. F

[TwoBadKneesUSA]

Well crap!  I give him this he took his time and did see/hear/feel the cracking and popping.  He was up front enough to say he could not help and did not offer another useless surgery.  Has anyone thought of AF or not?  Is is possible the tendons or ligaments are catching on the implants?  I will on occasion (when I have done a no no with the left knee) have the kneecap plate tweek the sinovium real hard and puff things up and make me linp.  Just some random thoughts.  Maybe scar tissue is interfereing and getting caught?  Sorry you did not get any more answers.

Milly