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Author Topic: ACLr/Compartment Syndrome/AF/Peroneal Nerve compression  (Read 94536 times)

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Re: ACLr/Compartment Syndrome/AF/Peroneal Nerve compression
« Reply #1095 on: May 05, 2013, 06:05:28 PM »
Wow - what a rollercoaster you've been on in the past few days. It seems crazy that you can go for fighting for a response one minute to offers of immediate surgery the next. No wonder you wanted a bit of time to think things through. I think you're doing the right thing making absolutely certain that this surgery won't just lead to the same complications again. Such a tough decision to make. I really hope you get enough information back that between the NYU OS and Dr. Steve, you're able to feel confident in the way forward.
Mar 11: R Biceps femoris tear (skiing)
Jul 10: ACLr (hamstring autograft)
Mar 10: L ACL rupture (skiing)
Feb 06: L partial ACL tear (kickboxing)
Dec 03: R bone edema (motorbike)
Jan 01: R patellar chip (motorbike)
May 93: R ACL sprain (hockey)
Ongoing: bilateral PFS and OA

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Re: ACLr/Compartment Syndrome/AF/Peroneal Nerve compression
« Reply #1096 on: May 06, 2013, 07:17:27 PM »
Well, I have a surgery date now, June 3rd, but still have not heard back from the OS on my questions and am not sure if he plans to do the limited fasciotomy or a full extended fasciotomy. I really hope that he responds back before I see him in the staging area before surgery. Once I received the call with the surgery date, I cancelled the appt. with Dr. Steve.

Kristin

**I really have not suddenly become all passive and blindly trusting in my OS. He just had a huge breakthrough in the past week. He is the first OS that i've seen that now understands that my 40+ year old stroke has nothing at all to do with any symptoms going on in my leg. He is actually seeing me as a normal patient first and knows that he should have come to all the same diagnosis for my symptoms himself. I actually got an apology for the last year and a half that I had to go through figuring things out on my own.

I have 4 weeks until my surgery. I gave him all my concerns about the limited fasciotomy vs the full fasciotomy, including the tire analogy. I asked him to not include any concern for surgical pain or trauma to me in his decision making on which surgery would make the CS stop for good. I made sure he knows that I am willing to go through any surgery that will stop this. I do believe he is still sorting out my case in his head and seeing things a lot more clearly now that he is not focusing on the stroke. If he has no contacted me in he ext few weeks I will get in touch again.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2013, 01:10:17 PM by kcknee »
12/31/08 - Skiing injury L knee
6/1/09 - ACL stump removed from joint
8/31/09 - ACLr using Hamstring Graft
12/21/09 - Fasciotomy anterior compartment
8/26/10 - Anterior Interval Release
12/6/10, 5/5/11, 12/22/11 - Fasciotomy of 4 compartments
12/7/12 - Peroneal Nerve Decompression

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Re: ACLr/Compartment Syndrome/AF/Peroneal Nerve compression
« Reply #1097 on: May 08, 2013, 06:09:19 AM »
That's great news on the OS's breakthrough. It's still too bad that you had to go through that year of doing all the research and work with no support from the experts (not to mention everything you did before that), and I think an awful lot of credit for his change of approach goes to your diligence, thoroughness and persistence. As an information professional I could have done no better than you did, and I'm pretty sure no medical professional could have done either.

I think you've done absolutely the right thing at this point. I so hope that this finally brings an outcome with no more recurring symptoms and nothing more to battle with than a regular rehab from a very invasive surgery. That won't be fun, but it will be worth it if it finally brings this succession of complications to an end.
Mar 11: R Biceps femoris tear (skiing)
Jul 10: ACLr (hamstring autograft)
Mar 10: L ACL rupture (skiing)
Feb 06: L partial ACL tear (kickboxing)
Dec 03: R bone edema (motorbike)
Jan 01: R patellar chip (motorbike)
May 93: R ACL sprain (hockey)
Ongoing: bilateral PFS and OA

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Re: ACLr/Compartment Syndrome/AF/Peroneal Nerve compression
« Reply #1098 on: May 08, 2013, 06:20:58 PM »
Thanks Snowy. I really hope I'm making the right decision.

I heard back from OS. He did say that he would make sure the evil anesthesiologist was not in charge for this surgery. That is a huge relief. I hope I don't even have to see her in the staging area. I do have an appt. scheduled with my cardiologist to get an EKG done 3 days prior to my pre-op appt, so I won't have any problems with the pre-op testing.

I won't get an answer on the extent of the fasciotomy until I wake up from surgery. He just said - we will take a look and release as needed. I'll have my husband write everything down when the OS talks to him. I always have a hard time waking up fully after surgery and my husband forgets all the details.

Kristin

5/10 - My son talked me into playing basketball against him - guilted me that I will be on crutches soon.  I knew it would hurt to play, but real pain came once I stop playing and fluid pockets filled. Most CS is in lower leg where OS plans to release. Lower leg above ankle is very tight and cramping, toes tingling. Just had an episode where it cramped from the lower lateral side up my lower leg and then my foot and toes clawed up spasming cramping for a few minutes. Not fun. Taking a percocet before bed so I will sleep through any more cramping. Only a few more weeks until surgery.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2013, 04:11:18 AM by kcknee »
12/31/08 - Skiing injury L knee
6/1/09 - ACL stump removed from joint
8/31/09 - ACLr using Hamstring Graft
12/21/09 - Fasciotomy anterior compartment
8/26/10 - Anterior Interval Release
12/6/10, 5/5/11, 12/22/11 - Fasciotomy of 4 compartments
12/7/12 - Peroneal Nerve Decompression

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Re: ACLr/Compartment Syndrome/AF/Peroneal Nerve compression
« Reply #1099 on: May 14, 2013, 11:25:23 PM »
Very confused on what to do now.

Sports Doc emailed me earlier "Maybe I can drain those pockets of fluid under US guidance in the office? and see if your symptoms resolve?"

I've kind of resigned myself to the fasciotomy and the reasons why NYU OS said draining the pockets wouldn't work, but forwarded to OS to ask his opinion if I should try it. He responded with"injection and aspirating will not work- i think less is more in a case like this and the down time for the medial opening will be minimal."

What about the lateral incision??? Now I don't know if he's changed his mind from considering the full fasciotomies on both sides to just the lower 1/3 limited fasciotomy of the medial side. I wrote him back and am awaiting his response. I get CS on both sides.

I was concerned that the limited fasciotomy on the lower 1/3 of both sides would require additional surgeries, but am certain the a limited fasciotomy on only the medial side will require additional surgery. I just had severe painful deep cramping for almost 10 minutes on the lateral front side down into my foot. I attended a training class all day so my leg was down under a desk. Lower leg  buzzing and tight. Just happened again with big toe arched up and back. Tried to walk off and felt bone in ball of foot being pressed in to floor by arching.

Much better to have this conversation now than in the pre or post op room.

Kristin
« Last Edit: May 15, 2013, 01:51:53 AM by kcknee »
12/31/08 - Skiing injury L knee
6/1/09 - ACL stump removed from joint
8/31/09 - ACLr using Hamstring Graft
12/21/09 - Fasciotomy anterior compartment
8/26/10 - Anterior Interval Release
12/6/10, 5/5/11, 12/22/11 - Fasciotomy of 4 compartments
12/7/12 - Peroneal Nerve Decompression

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Re: ACLr/Compartment Syndrome/AF/Peroneal Nerve compression
« Reply #1100 on: May 15, 2013, 03:11:13 AM »
I just heard back at 11 tonight. I feel a lot better about the surgery. I am so glad that this came up now.

"It sounds like your symptoms are lateral as well- it should be explored we will free nerve from scar tissue and release"

5/15 - I told the Sports Med Doc that the CS symptoms have been really strong for the past few weeks, so I think that even if I drain the pockets to relieve pressure on the nerve and bone, the compartments still need to be surgically opened again.

 I took a percocet to sleep and this morning woke to toe cramping up again and pain deep in the back of my calf. I have today off from class and then have to sit at a desk all day Thursday and Friday again.

I'm tempted to get the pressures measured either Thursday or Friday night after sitting with leg down all day so I can have proof for OS that all compartments need opening just in case he starts to change his mind again on the lateral side.

**Sports Med Doc offered to test compartment pressures w/o me having to ask. He said he can test lower parts instead of usual upper section. I hate needles so much, but it probably is a good idea.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2013, 05:30:48 PM by kcknee »
12/31/08 - Skiing injury L knee
6/1/09 - ACL stump removed from joint
8/31/09 - ACLr using Hamstring Graft
12/21/09 - Fasciotomy anterior compartment
8/26/10 - Anterior Interval Release
12/6/10, 5/5/11, 12/22/11 - Fasciotomy of 4 compartments
12/7/12 - Peroneal Nerve Decompression

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Re: ACLr/Compartment Syndrome/AF/Peroneal Nerve compression
« Reply #1101 on: May 19, 2013, 04:12:13 PM »
After 3days of all day classes and a family event w/ a lot of walking and standing, my leg alternates between pain and numbness. I know the numbness is not a good thing, but after hours of pain it is very welcome.

Monday I have my EKG in the morning and get the compartment pressures measured at night. I'm not sure if he will decide to only test the lower part of each compartment, test top and bottom of each compartment to see if limited fasciotomy would be enough or test compartments lying down and then standing to see if his venous compartment syndrome theory is accurate. I am dreading the needles, but looking forward to sorting out what is going on before the surgery. I don't always trust my mind's interpretation of the pain and need to get straight in my own head what I think needs to be done. OS is not requiring testing and doesn't know I am getting pressures checked. If the results do not match his surgical plan I will send them to him.

5/20 - EKG has been signed off on. Cardiologist will complete all pre-op forms and fax over to OS w/ copy of EKG today.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2013, 03:38:02 PM by kcknee »
12/31/08 - Skiing injury L knee
6/1/09 - ACL stump removed from joint
8/31/09 - ACLr using Hamstring Graft
12/21/09 - Fasciotomy anterior compartment
8/26/10 - Anterior Interval Release
12/6/10, 5/5/11, 12/22/11 - Fasciotomy of 4 compartments
12/7/12 - Peroneal Nerve Decompression

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Re: ACLr/Compartment Syndrome/AF/Peroneal Nerve compression
« Reply #1102 on: May 21, 2013, 12:40:14 AM »
I just left the Sports Med Doc's office after having the compartment pressures measured. He first did an ultrasound of the medial side and lateral side to determine the location of the fluid pockets. There are fluid pockets that are visible on both sides up the scar lines and actually extend further up the lateral scar while the medial seems to stop more at the level of the last  fasciectomy internal incision. The compartment pressures were taken at rest only. The anterior started in the 50s and leveled out at 35; the lateral was 15; the deep posterior started in the 40s and leveled out at 37 and the superficial posterior was 12. Greater than 15 at rest is positive for compartment syndrome

I sent the OS the results and photos of where the pressures were taken on my leg so he could see at what level the compartments were showing elevated pressures. These pressures readings were taken well above where the OS had said he was going to stop the limited fasciotomy incisions.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 02:09:38 PM by kcknee »
12/31/08 - Skiing injury L knee
6/1/09 - ACL stump removed from joint
8/31/09 - ACLr using Hamstring Graft
12/21/09 - Fasciotomy anterior compartment
8/26/10 - Anterior Interval Release
12/6/10, 5/5/11, 12/22/11 - Fasciotomy of 4 compartments
12/7/12 - Peroneal Nerve Decompression

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Re: ACLr/Compartment Syndrome/AF/Peroneal Nerve compression
« Reply #1103 on: May 22, 2013, 03:09:03 AM »
Wow - I can't believe how much has happened since I last checked in! So glad that you're doing this now, and that you seem to have finally found two understanding doctors who are willing to a) run all the tests needed to establish exactly what's going on and b) pay attention to the results. It's happening fast, but at least you're getting the information you need before you go under the knife again. Fingers crossed for a positive response from the OS.
Mar 11: R Biceps femoris tear (skiing)
Jul 10: ACLr (hamstring autograft)
Mar 10: L ACL rupture (skiing)
Feb 06: L partial ACL tear (kickboxing)
Dec 03: R bone edema (motorbike)
Jan 01: R patellar chip (motorbike)
May 93: R ACL sprain (hockey)
Ongoing: bilateral PFS and OA

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Re: ACLr/Compartment Syndrome/AF/Peroneal Nerve compression
« Reply #1104 on: May 24, 2013, 03:10:53 AM »
Had a long day in at pre-op I got there at 10:30 and didn't get out until after 4:00. 

The blood test was awful. I don't do well with needles to begin with, but the nurse stabbed the needle in, claimed the vein must have collapsed because she didn't hit it and instead of removing the needle started searching internally for the vein while giving me a running commentary. I start sweating and starting to get faint so finally got her to remove the needle. She started saying she was going to stab my hand, but almost every IV in my hand hits a valve and I end up with a swollen blood pocket so I was opposed. A new nurse wandered in and got the sample easily from my arm.

The last step was meeting with an anesthesiologist. I was told I had to get two written statements before I could be approved for surgery. The first was to explain the EKG results and why it was normal for me (tremor). The second was a written statement by a doctor that i had had a stroke and possible reason why and why as a result had a tremor in my left side. I started to leave and then decided that I wasn't going anywhere until I had a sign-off. I wrote up what they needed for the EKG and wrote a paragraph explaining the circumstances of the stroke and the residual effects to my left side. My cardiologist's staff was great and cleaned up the paragraph and he wrote on the EKG report  in large letters that it was NORMAL for me and faxed it all back to pre-op and the nurse I was assigned to got the anesthesiologist to sign off and approve the surgery. I wish I didn't have to go through all that, but so glad that this time it happened in pre-op and not when I was gowned for surgery.

I can't wait to get this surgery behind me, but am dreading going through it again. No word from OS. Very painful cramping tonight with toes clawing down and big toe up. Every time it happens I'm afraid they might not release.

Woke throughout the night to severe pain in leg. Deep pain in lateral and back of calf and foot clawing.

« Last Edit: May 24, 2013, 01:18:58 PM by kcknee »
12/31/08 - Skiing injury L knee
6/1/09 - ACL stump removed from joint
8/31/09 - ACLr using Hamstring Graft
12/21/09 - Fasciotomy anterior compartment
8/26/10 - Anterior Interval Release
12/6/10, 5/5/11, 12/22/11 - Fasciotomy of 4 compartments
12/7/12 - Peroneal Nerve Decompression