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Topic: seeking info on AF experts (Read 269 times)
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jess8181
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Hello everyone, hope that your all doing well
I'm sorry if this is so long but I'm in tears right now and feel like I need to write out my frustrations in hopes that someone may be able to provide some information.
I've posted a few times on my situation and frustrations but I'm now at my wits end. I'm a 28 year old healthy female who was involved in a car accident 11 months ago which resulted in a knee dislocation. I tore 3 ligaments and had them replaced in one sugery a week after the initial accident. I was then shipped to a rehab center due to my pelvis break I was unable to get proper care at home. My cascade of events began here where the PT's had no clue what they were doing and just cranked on my knee for 2 months until I was released to go home and changed to my OS's Pt team. By this time it was too late my knee was too far gone but we just kept at it. I continued to tell my OS at checkups that something was wrong I had 90 degrees flexion and barely 5 degrees extension loss at 6 months postop.
In the meantime I schedualed appointments with more OS's for second third and fourth opinions. They all stated that I need a LOA. None of which were willing to do it themselves for various reasons. Brought this information to current OS, he finally started taking me seriously and actually examined my knee and looked at my X-rays. Then he tells me 'oh you have a calicification in the posterior of your knee, this is why you can't move it". My response was well can't you remove this? He says no because the back is very vascular it cannot be removed. He also mentioned that it looks as though it could be the pcl graft that has calicified. So I asked if he could removed it and replace it with a new graft to which his answer was a simple NO again. After talking to him about my pain in the front he said he could open me up again and debride the scar tissue which may help some. At this point I was so desperate I agreed in hopes that it would solve some of the problem.
So on July 22, exactly 8 months after my first surgery he removed the scar tissue through my original incision and sated that there was a ton of it. I started PT the next day. Everything was going great, Extension is 0, PT was getting me to 120 degrees 125 felxion (my good leg is only like 130) mosttimes with little pain other than the normal incision site and muscle weakness. The forced ROM hurt in the sense of a deep stretch sensation which was a welcomed pain compared to what it felt like prior to surgery. After a few weeks it seemed to be a bit tougher to get me to 120 but I didn't worry too much because it wasn't that painful just more stretching required. By 3 months time 120 is so hard and painful I can't bear it. The back of the knee feels like someting is going to break during fllexion. I currently have 100 degrees active and 0 degrees extension though the extension never stays at 0. So back to the OS. He doesn't know what to do, sends me for a bone scan and puts me on nuerontin.
I'm in Canada and I just don't know what to do. I would like some information on seeing one of the specialists listed as an expert in the US. If I travel to see on of these experts, approximately how much am I going to be spending? Can anyone give me a fair idea of the cost of surgery in the US? I know for my LOA here it was about 6,000 because they get paid based on the time of the procedure. Also what surgeon would be best suited for my case since I have this calicification that I think may be part of the problem and may need to be addressed. Also assuming it is the pcl that has califiied, why is not possible to remove and put in a new one?? One last question is, do you think that is I wrote one of the AF experts that they could give me the name of a Canadian OS that may be able to sort out this mess?? I'm just at a loss and feel so hopeless.
thanks for listening.
Jessica
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MartinsGirl
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Hi Jessica,
I haven't been on here in ages. I guess something made me check in today. I'm also in Canada (near Toronto) and suffer from AF. My friend Lenore lives in New York and has severe AF. She went to see one of the best AF specialists there is. Dr. Noyes. He is in Cincinatti. I know for a fact that it would cost you a ridiculous amount of money to get down there (she had to stay for a month, to do her follow up PT at Noyes' hospital) and to have any surgery he might suggest.
Your situation sounds like my friend Lenore's. She had surgery to have her scar tissue removed, and she was fine for a while. But then it came back. I was one of the lucky ones. I developed AF after my arthroscopic surgery in October '07, but a lot of heavy duty physio (painful flexion & extension exercises) I managed to keep my flexion at about 130 and my extension at 0. At one point my doc thought I might need an MUA (but I managed to get and maintain my flexion/extension). I have not heard of any "super" AF specialists (such as Dr. Noyes) here in Canada. But my doctor is amazing. He is knowledgeable about AF. His name is Dr. Daniel Whelan and he is an orthopaedic surgeon (knee specialist) at St. Michael's hospital in Toronto. I am not on here much (I don't think I've been on here since May), so I will try to message you with my email address. My good friend Lenore doesn't post on here much (or at all) anymore. But she is going in for yet another manipulation on the 9th. Not with Dr. Noyes this time. She can't afford it. She paid thousands and thousands out of pocket to get down there and to see him and to the 1 month of intensive post-op physio.
Good luck. I'll message you now. I'm sorry you're suffering so much. Oh, by the way, I'm 32. My knee injury occurred when I was 30. ~Nevella (so, if I don't reply on here, it's b/c i'm rarely on KGs anymore).
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-July '07-soccer injury - microfracture of the tibial plateau - arthroscopy in Oct. '07 (remove torn cartilage and repair microfracture) -developed AF but beat it (avoided surgery) [url=http://www.glitter-graphics.com][img width=200 height=136]http://dl6.glitter-graphics.net/pub/504/504056crsfyif
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jess8181
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Thanks Nevella and everyone thats written private messages.
I'm taking Nevella's advice and am going to book an appointment with her OS whom I actually did research on and not only is he well versed in AF but he is an expert in my particular injury. I feel like Canadian OS wise he is my only shot. I will still have to fly down to see him but it's only a 45 minute flight. I'm just waiting to get the results on my bone scan.
I guess what frustrates me most is that through reading Dr. Noyes's AF tutorials he actaully talks specifically about my situation and what needs to be done. Yet my OS says it can't be done that I just need to live with this calicified ligament. In my opinion this ligament is causing some of the scar tissue by continually irritating the joint, just as a misplaced graft would do. If he were the type of open minded OS that I could have a conversation with I would bring in the tutorials and show him but unfortunately there is no reasoning with this guy. It just burns me that seeking appropriate treatment boils down to being able to afford it. If I had the money I'd be at Dr. Noyes's office tomorow morning.
What's worse is that I can't even sue the quy who hit me even though he was in the wrong. My province has this stupid "no fault" insurance and you can basically kill someone with your car and not get sued..........how messed up is that?
Anyhow thanks for letting me rant!
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jess8181
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well exactly one year ago today is when I was hit by a car and it has been an emotional day just thinking how my life has changed in only a year. Its hard to believe that I once was someone who walked everywhere at any chance I had and now I'm barely able to make it to the bathroom.
Other than that I called Dr. Whalen's office and explained my situation, the secratary told me to send a post-op MRI and my info and he will look over my case and see if he can help before making the trip down. Only problem being that I never got a post-op MRI so I am thinking to just get one done privately and send it along. Now it is just the waiting game I suppose.
Jess
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