Microfracture on 37 year old male soccer player

[Scooter72]

Well, it has been almost 3 weeks since last I heard from anyone in this thread.  Anyone have any improvements, setbacks, or otherwise?

[kevin3004]

Well, it has been almost 3 weeks since last I heard from anyone in this thread. Anyone have any improvements, setbacks, or otherwise?

Hi Scot well as of last week I'm up to jogging twice a week on grass, if you imagine a soccer pitch, I put a cone marker on the corner of the penatly area then walk down the pitch to the opposite penalty area and put a cone in that corner. I then walk across put a cone in the other corner and the same opposite down the pitch. That is then my rectangular circuit, I then do 5 laps staight off 3/4 pace down the lenghts and jog across the widths. I rest for 2mins., then do 4 laps rest for 1.5mins, 3 laps rest for 1min., 2 laps rest for 30 secs. and then 1 lap. It's tough but is helping with my stamina.
The knee really hurts arterwards for the first 24 hours on the inside of my knee when I try to fully straighten it and then it gradually settles down after 3 days. The P/T doesn't seem unduly worried about the pain as he says that there are various fluids and tissue that need to settle down inside the knee that its normal but that doesn't make the initial pain any easier. He said if it persisted and wasn't settling down as it is after 3 to 4 days he would be more concerned.
How are things with you?
Cheers
Kevin

[Scooter72]

Things are alright with me!  Just enjoying the change in weather we have had here.. in the past seven days, the temperatures have (finally) climbed into the 60s and 70s. Fantastic for getting out! I hope you experience the same if you have not already.

Glad to hear that you are doing laps and pushing through.  If you had to grade your knee right now, about what percentage would you give it compared to the other "good" knee?  I know that can be hard to do, but I am curious.

Also, what about some cortisone shots for the knee?  Any talk of that?

Looks like it will be a tight fight for the last Champion's League spot, although I daresay that City has the advantage since Spurs and Villa have to go to COMS, I believe.

Wolves are 5pts clear of the relegation zone, which is great.  I enjoy seeing new teams stay up. 

Also looks as if Newcastle will be rejoining the Prem.. which is good for a friend of mine (from England) who is a big Magpie fan.  I hope for sake of all their fans, Mike Ashley spends a bit better this go-around.

[kevin3004]

Things are alright with me! Just enjoying the change in weather we have had here.. in the past seven days, the temperatures have (finally) climbed into the 60s and 70s. Fantastic for getting out! I hope you experience the same if you have not already.

Glad to hear that you are doing laps and pushing through. If you had to grade your knee right now, about what percentage would you give it compared to the other "good" knee? I know that can be hard to do, but I am curious.

Also, what about some cortisone shots for the knee? Any talk of that?

Looks like it will be a tight fight for the last Champion's League spot, although I daresay that City has the advantage since Spurs and Villa have to go to COMS, I believe.

Wolves are 5pts clear of the relegation zone, which is great. I enjoy seeing new teams stay up.

Also looks as if Newcastle will be rejoining the Prem.. which is good for a friend of mine (from England) who is a big Magpie fan. I hope for sake of all their fans, Mike Ashley spends a bit better this go-around.

Hi Scot I am due to see the O/S again in June but at no stage has anyone mentioned cortisone shots, is this something you had done? I would currently rate my bad knee at about 75% of my good one.
Yes Wolves have done well so far so fingers crossed.
Kevin

[Scooter72]

75%?!? That is fantastic news!  Very well!  As for the cortisone shot; I haven't had it done, but it has been presented as an option to fight the inflammation that occurs after too much activity (i.e. too many games).  The O/S just drains the fluid in the knee, and injects cortisone which then hopefully prevents further inflammation and subsequent pain.  Despite the fact that I cannot personally speak to its efficacy, others in these forums and to whom I have personally spoken give me a positive impression of it, being a simple yet therapeutic procedure.  However, I would guess that at this point, neither your O/S nor your PT would suggest such measures.

[b5 mlb]

hi scooter how are u going, i hav not been on the site for a while .the knee has been good until 2 days ago ,i was at work when a box fell and i bent to catch it and got a litte pain on the trochlea were i had microfracture in august  last year.the bottem of my thigh going in to the top of my knee is sore. it also pop and clicks now ,hav i damage it agian .i go to see the os on the 19 of this month about my ankle so i will
talk to him about it.

[Scooter72]

hi scooter how are u going, i hav not been on the site for a while .the knee has been good until 2 days ago ,i was at work when a box fell and i bent to catch it and got a litte pain on the trochlea were i had microfracture in august  last year.the bottem of my thigh going in to the top of my knee is sore. it also pop and clicks now ,hav i damage it agian .i go to see the os on the 19 of this month about my ankle so i will
talk to him about it.

Good to hear from you! Yes, I would talk to your O/S about it, although I doubt that you will get a definitive answer unless an MRI is taken.  For me personally, it is so hard to tell, because there have been numerous times that I have thought my microfracture has failed due to extended pain over a period of days.  But eventually, the pain goes away. Which brings me to another point.. I am fairly sure that I have arthritis in my bad knee.. it explains how sometimes my knee can feel so bad without any obvious preceding event (i.e. serious tweaking, or too many games of footy).

[b5 mlb]

thanls for geting back to me ,i hope i hav jst tweak it like u . noing my luck i i hav damage it .  :-[i hav done some coaching on it and it has been fine . so could bending down course it to go.

[Scooter72]

thanls for geting back to me ,i hope i hav jst tweak it like u . noing my luck i i hav damage it .  :-[i hav done some coaching on it and it has been fine . so could bending down course it to go.

Well, don't assume anything negative.  Keep your spirits up.  Please update us, after you talk to the O/S.

[Scooter72]

Any news? 

Kevin, how is the jogging at this point?  And b5, what did your O/S say?

[kevin3004]

Any news?

Kevin, how is the jogging at this point? And b5, what did your O/S say?

Hi Scot thanks for asking, I seemed to reach a Plateau with my jogging 2 weeks ago when I didn't seem to be improving and got down on myself. However, my P/T reviewed my diet and daily water intake and put me on a set diet of 1800 calories per day but insisting that I eat every 4 hours. I wasn't drinking much water so I now have to drink at least 4 pints a day, more if I can. Coincidence or not last Thursday I did a 2 mile run in 15 mins 11 secs whch is a significant improvement and I am managing 2 runs a week so I hope I can continue. If I can shave a small amount off my times I won't be far off my referees fitness test pace I need for this summer. However, that test also consists of a series of sprints  which will be more difficult.
How are things with you?
Cheers
Kevin

[Scooter72]

Kevin, there may be something to what your physio says, concerning the water consumption.  I will try it out, and see how it affects my knee pains after footy.  Unfortunately, I am a BIG coffee drinker.. we are talking at least a couple of pints or more per day.  And of course, coffee is counterproductive with regards to staying hydrated.  And the diet.. well that is a tough one.  I don't envy trying to stay on 1800 kcals per day, but I am quite sure that you have the conviction to do se, in light of the gain you just made.

I will be keen on hearing good news regarding your referee fitness test, this summer.

Wolves are hanging in there.. currently 6 points above the relegation zone.  Quite the managerial job by McCarthy.

[kevin3004]

Kevin, there may be something to what your physio says, concerning the water consumption. I will try it out, and see how it affects my knee pains after footy. Unfortunately, I am a BIG coffee drinker.. we are talking at least a couple of pints or more per day. And of course, coffee is counterproductive with regards to staying hydrated. And the diet.. well that is a tough one. I don't envy trying to stay on 1800 kcals per day, but I am quite sure that you have the conviction to do se, in light of the gain you just made.

I will be keen on hearing good news regarding your referee fitness test, this summer.

Wolves are hanging in there.. currently 6 points above the relegation zone. Quite the managerial job by McCarthy.

Thanks Scot I must admit I have the same problem in the UK with the amount of tea that I drink but I find the water helps to fill me up so that may naturally help reduce your coffee intake. As for the 1800  kcals per day that hasn't been as bad as you think because if you look at the kcal content of the foods you eat you can easily get by on 300 for breakfast, 500 for lunch and that stills leaves you 1000 for dinner and snacks. The secret though is to go no longer than 4 hours between eating because my P/T says that if you do your body stores up the fat, whereas if you eat at least every 4 hours then your body releases it for you to burn off.
On the Wolves I think we need one more win from our remaining 3 games
Cheers
Kevin

[madel23]

Nice job everyone!  I ran my marathon yesterday, in roughly 3 hours, 30 minutes, which was 10 minutes faster than last time.  The knee feels fine, although i am sore everywhere else and I think I messed up my foot on the other leg.  But I was planning to take some time off anyway.  Next, I am training for a sprint triathlon in June (my first triathlon), so I need to get back in the pool and on the bike!

[Scooter72]

Hello Madel, Kevin and all!

Hope everyone is doing alright.  Kevin, you're still running? And Wolves are out of relegation territory. When is your referee test, this summer? 

Unfortunately, I have gained a few pounds, which is odd at first thought, since I am playing so much football now.  However, on retrospect, my diet is less than ideal, at the moment.  I've been enjoying too many pints with teammates after games, and also eating too much gelato.  My wife makes homemade gelato, which is a bane of mine.