I really appreciate everyone's input so far, it sounds like a mixed bag to me! EOD, I am curious if you did anything to enable you to do this? Did you just try one day and you were able to? I know I totally forgot about my TKR one day and went to get into bed by getting on my knees first and it hurt but I'm thinking that maybe part of it was the shock of it and my jerk reaction to get off of it so quickly. Maybe some of it is psychological? At any rate, thank you all so much and I look forward to getting as much information about this that is out there in "knee geek land" .... !