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12 year old MCL sprain
« on: May 15, 2005, 03:11:38 AM »
My son sprained his left MCL. It was diagnosed as a grade 2.
It was fairly swollen (more so around and to the left of the knee cap) and he
was on crutches for a few days. Right after the injury he was able to bicycle home
but it started hurting more once the swelling set in.  He could bear weight on it three
days after the injury but was kept in a knee brace for school.  He was walking on it
the fifth or sixth day after when the Sports Doc said he should bear weight as much
as he could and "walk on it". Attended five physio sessions and does not have to go.
It is going on week 5 and as of today he can sprint, jog, hop up and down, steady
on injured leg on pillow or foamy cushion. To him it feels like he never even had
an injury. The left leg looks a little thicker on the side than his right but that could
just be scar tissue forming. He has complete range of motion and his injured leg is possibly
now better than his uninjured due to all the PT he did.  He is also regularly exercising
on a stationary. I was worried a bit last week when he said he had what was like a pinching
pain when he did a complete knee bend or when he touched his heel to buttock but
now even that is gone and tests for menisuc were negative.
The biggest thing was getting the leg totally straight..took about 3 weeks and having
absolutely no pain touching heel to buttock or flexing...took about 4 to 4.5 weeks.
I guess he got off kind of lucky since kids this age usually have a break before a ligament
injury. He has already returned to soccer practice and felt nothing bad after it or the
day after. Will continue to keep doing leg strengthening and hope nothing else develops
down the road. Scary scene it was....like someone said.......you hope for the best but
the symptoms of an MCL sprain can be very scary.
I think kids recover from this much faster than adults based on some of the posts
I have read in here.

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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2005, 09:47:30 AM »
Apples,

Wow, your son has done very well.  That is really good that he is having no pain and has returned to sports again.

Glad to hear a positive story.

Good luck,

Shade
« Last Edit: May 15, 2005, 09:49:03 AM by Shade »

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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2005, 02:23:46 PM »
Glad to hear your son is recovering so well from his MCL injury apples! He sure is lucky!
*16 years old*
Left Knee:
Torn:PCL, ACL, MCL
SEVERAL dislocations
Grade 3 Chondromalacia
Medial & Lateral Meniscus tears
Plica Syndrome
Sept 14th 2005-(LK)ACL recon, TTT, menisectomy,plica removal

May 26th/06-Torn ACL(RK)

June 14th/06-(LK)ACL graft recon, screw removal, menisectomy

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Knee Brace?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2005, 10:38:18 PM »
My son returned to soccer practice almost 5 weeks after the initial injury wearing
a drytex double hinged brace. Cheap but effective.
I think he will wear it for practices and games.
My physio says he should wear it for the season as it will prevent reinjury
but I have heard that wearing them can be a problem due to dependency
and "muscle balance"?

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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2005, 10:54:36 PM »
Apple,

I would imagine that your son would be wise to wear the brace especially playing soccer.

Sounds like your son is well on his way to full recovery, that is just fantastic.

Shade 


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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2005, 05:44:02 AM »
Apple,

it wouldnt be a bad idea for your son to wear the brace for the season.  i had a grade 2 MCL tear a few years back and wore a brace the whole ice hockey and part of my softball season. i dont think that you would really have to worry about the muscle imbalance if he is just wearing it for practices and games.  not like hes wearing it 24/7.  at least thats what ive come to, maybe others have a suggestion. 

anyways, great to hear that your son has returned to soccer!  awesome positive story around here!

Take Care,
~Mandy
21 yrs old
12/04: plica removal (RK)
2/05: debridement, LR/TTT (RK)
6/05: debridement, LR/TTT (LK)
10/05: scar tissue removal/debridement (LK)
3/06: screw removal (both knees), debridement on TTT site (LK)
5/08: debridement, HTO, Maquet procedure (LK)

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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2005, 03:06:26 AM »
Hi Mandy,
What kind of brace do you wear for hockey?
I was planning on having him not wear the brace when hockey starts since it will
be Five Months....but then again I might.
I think the drytex donjoy is too bulky to wear with knee pads.
He might pick up a better one down south.
Anyway.......I just hope he does not reinjure it.

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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2005, 03:26:44 AM »
Hey apples~

right now i wear the breg PTO for anything active i do...but that is mainly for my maltracking issues.  for when i had my MCL tear, i wore another brace by the same company.  they dont make it anymore, but this brace is as close to it as i could find: http://www.breg.com/products/acl_oa/x2k.html 

the brace was bulky for me too with my hockey gear.  i injured my knee in july and wore the brace all thru hockey and one more softball season too.  the knee pads do get stretched out, so the next year i bought new ones.  it kinda sucked having to do that, but if it was gonna save my knee, i'd do anything. 

good luck with the bracing issue.  let me know if you wanna know anymore!! 

Take Care,
~mandy
21 yrs old
12/04: plica removal (RK)
2/05: debridement, LR/TTT (RK)
6/05: debridement, LR/TTT (LK)
10/05: scar tissue removal/debridement (LK)
3/06: screw removal (both knees), debridement on TTT site (LK)
5/08: debridement, HTO, Maquet procedure (LK)

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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2005, 03:13:39 AM »
Hi Mandy,
I don't think I will go with the brace for hockey.
He actually injured his knee playing sandlot football when some oversized
kid landed on his leg when it was in a bad position.
I intend on him having the drytex donjoy for the soccer season but that will be it.
He is doing very well and has no absolutely no pain and no flexing issues.
I think he got off lucky considering he had no other knee problems
except the MCL.
He can do everything as good as before the injury and perhaps better with
all the balancing and strength exercises but he does use the brace
for any activity and I understand ligaments reform up to one year or more.
Since he was only 12.5 when he injured the knee his tendons and ligaments are
still growing and the scarring will be more absorbed.  His age will probably make
the knee heal better than it would for an adult....since things are still growing....so
I have been told.
What do you mean by maltracking?
Also........it seems that you have had problems with both knees based on the
comments at the bottom of your posts?

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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2005, 03:25:55 AM »
Hi apples~

you got it on that one....i most def have problems in both knees!  maltracking is basically that my knees arent mechanically right.  they are somewhat off from the "normal"  this puts more stresses on my knees and causes more pain.  the maltracking was not due to the MCL tear at all.  maltracking is basically a genetic kinda thing.  i inherited these lovely knees from my mom. 

i totally understand where you are coming from for the brace for hockey.  i injured myself in basically the same way but instead of an oversized football player, it was a softball player.  i went to the OS in july and he is our team physician.  he advised me to wear it thru hockey season.  i hated every minute of it, but i managed.

i hope everything continues to progress well for your son!!

Take Care,
~mandy
21 yrs old
12/04: plica removal (RK)
2/05: debridement, LR/TTT (RK)
6/05: debridement, LR/TTT (LK)
10/05: scar tissue removal/debridement (LK)
3/06: screw removal (both knees), debridement on TTT site (LK)
5/08: debridement, HTO, Maquet procedure (LK)

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Kids out there who had MCL sprains
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2005, 01:50:46 AM »
Any kids or parents of kids out there who had MCL sprains when they were 11, 12
or 13?
I was wondering how their progress has been years or months after.
I can't find any information on how easy it is to resprain an MCL after you have
done it once but from what statistics I have been able to gather it seems
people that get mulitple resprains of the same knee fall into these categories..
A/ Were not kids when they first started having knee troubles since kids
regenerate better.
B/ Seem to just have "bad knees" or a propensity for injury.
C/ Participate in a high number of contact or risky sports?

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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2005, 12:50:31 PM »
I tore my MCL, and I am 14. Mine has healed pretty well, altough it is still a bit sore when I put alot of pressure on that spot. One of the reasons my OS told me it healed so well is because I was put in an immobilizer for 10 weeks for my ACL (i know...some docs are STUPID) So i never really got a chance to rush back into sports. I think as long as your son's knee feels good, and he doesn't have any pain playing then its a go!
Krista
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Left Knee:
Torn:PCL, ACL, MCL
SEVERAL dislocations
Grade 3 Chondromalacia
Medial & Lateral Meniscus tears
Plica Syndrome
Sept 14th 2005-(LK)ACL recon, TTT, menisectomy,plica removal

May 26th/06-Torn ACL(RK)

June 14th/06-(LK)ACL graft recon, screw removal, menisectomy

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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2005, 06:20:38 PM »
If you are 14 now how old were you when you tore it?
Was it a grade 2 or 3.
Funny you should mention the immobilizer thing.
I have heard they heal worse if immobilized.
My son was using crutches (although he could have managed without them)
the fourth day after the injury and the first thing the sports doc said after
diagnosiing him was....get rid of the crutches and walk on this as much as you can.
Week seven now........he has played two soccer games, three practices, jogs, sprints
and has no discomfort. I make him wear the donjoy drytex when he is doing activities
just to make sure there are no reoccurrences.
I think his PT is what got him back so quicky and pain free. He had about six
sessions plus exercises at home.  At least work paid for it.
If anyone out there has an idea about the best non obstructive knee brace for
MCL protection when playing hockey let me know.
I don't think he will wear one but I have heard there are some real good albeit
expensive braces for hockey that don't get in the way of the kneepads.

Thanks........

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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2005, 07:32:48 PM »

Generation II Paradigm Ligament Brace looks like a really good brace for sports.  It is supposed to protect MCL injured knees & apparently is a low profile type brace suitable for sports.

Hope that you find something that will work so your son can participate in hockey again.

Good luck,

Shade
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Re: 12 year old MCL sprain
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2005, 07:45:29 PM »
Apples,
I was 14 when I tore my MCL too. The doctors said it was a grade 2-3 tear, they didnt really specify which one though! lol. Yea, maybe immobilizers do harm it more, im not sure...the docotrs at the hospital completely misdagnosed me to begin with, so i wouldnt be suprised if they gave me the wrong rehab protocol either. Its great that your son has had a such great recoverys o far though thats wonderful!
krista
*16 years old*
Left Knee:
Torn:PCL, ACL, MCL
SEVERAL dislocations
Grade 3 Chondromalacia
Medial & Lateral Meniscus tears
Plica Syndrome
Sept 14th 2005-(LK)ACL recon, TTT, menisectomy,plica removal

May 26th/06-Torn ACL(RK)

June 14th/06-(LK)ACL graft recon, screw removal, menisectomy

 















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